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A few weeks ago I asked on the ViperChill Facebook page whether people would be interested in a blog post on how I’ve developed various web software and plugins. The question was the most ‘liked’ status update I’ve ever made, making it clear that I should definitely write about this topic. Instead of just covering the development of my tools that already exist, I also have an announcement to make about an app I’ve been working on for months, which is making its world debut 
Joost is one of the most successful plugin developers in the world with millions of bloggers using his creations. I thought it would be great to have him answer some burning questions in this post. Let’s get into it…
Graeme has been one of my best friends for a number of years now and is one of the smartest and most hard-working people that I know. Some of his answers below were really interesting to me, so I’m sure you’ll get something out of them too…














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Hey Glen,
Wow man, once again you’ve created a wealth of information here!
I never realized Angry Birds made so much money!
Very excited about your new plugin, can’t wait to put it on my own blog and take advantage of [removed] (because I know how cool it was in beta mode, the full version is going to be incredible!)
Cheers!
Diggy
Thanks buddy,
It took me long enough to put together
Sorry I had to edit your comment, forgot to tell you I’m not fully revealing it in this post as planned. Really appreciate you helping me test it and make it awesome!
awesome post again Glen! Been waiting for this one
Thanks buddy!
Hi Glen,
Thanks for the transparency you’ve given over here. Very useful info.
Some of us just tend to get stuck in the “idea phrase” and not really fall through with the rest of the steps. This post was motivating in that sense….
Looking forward to trying out the plug-in. Considering your previous product, I have no doubt this one will be a gem too…
regards
Shamelle
Thanks Shamelle,
Appreciate the support and glad you got something out of the post!
High quality stuff, in my view following current trends and marketing strategies are important to create any app. Eventually it will start making $$$ bucks in short span of time.
Hey Bharat,
I’ve always been a big fan of following the markets and preparing things for events (especially when it comes to affiliate sites) so I’m with you on that
What’s popular right now can definitely give you inspiration for what they’re missing, so you can fill the gap.
Hi, Glen..A great inspirational post.
I am going to try that and will come back with a review. Thanks
Too late to know about your Cloud flood
Thanks!
Enjoy
Woow. Fantastic post, Glen. This is why I love your blog
.
I know that premium plugin is going to be super awesome. Can’t wait to see that plugin.
Thanks buddy,
Really appreciated your support over the last two years!
Once again, a great long post (maybe the longest one ’till now?)… It took me a while to read it
and it’s great. I did some outsourcing with programmers for some time but maybe I should try to get them program for me (smartphone apps, plugins and so on). Cheers
Hey Nikola,
Yep, I think it’s the longest post yet. I seriously thought it was going to be quite short when I started writing it
Let me know if you do!
Very nice. Long live long content…when it’s done as well as you do it. Anxious to see what you’ve done!
Thanks Randy,
I hope you’ll like it!
Great post Glen!Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Thank you for stopping by
Great post Glen and it came with great timing for me as I have a couple of ideas that I didn’t really know how to approach
Can’t wait to see what your new plugin is all about.
Thanks Dror,
Good to hear! I hope you like it
Awesome Post Glen,
Just waiting for the new premium plugin
Seems like you have some experience in this area
Thank you!
Can’t wait to hear more about your plugin Glen. Really looking forward to it.
Oh, and good luck!
Thanks Charlie!
Really creative post Glen, can’t say I expected you to address this topic but you really did a great job with it.
Any additional info on the problem that your plugin tackles? (Backend, email sign-ups, split testing, etc?)
Can’t wait, and good luck with the launch.
Once again, an excellent post Glen! I can’t wait to try to develop some of my ideas into web and mobile apps.
Thanks Sonny!
Let me know what you come up with
Hmmm…..how long did it take for you to master the art of SEO shtuff again?
I barely started, and I am like a big baby, sucking my fist at compooter shtuff.
Well anyways, you started somewhere, and I’m very glad you began sooner than most!
Peace =)
–I love the journey, I do, I do
I have a forth tip:
Do it with love. Why do you think mom’s cooking is always the best?
You da best
Really appreciate this post, I’m rather new to your blog. Definitely going through all of the other content. It’s amazing that your creating posts like this.
Thanks Ryan,
Look around. There’s tons here
Welcome to the community!
Seriously, I’ve been waiting for your new post…
Finally, like usual, inspirational and awesome how-to post.
Thanks a lot Glen for your commitment to teach us everything from scratch.
May God bless you, always.
Thank you, Tim!
Really glad you enjoyed it
Dear Glen.
Please buy me a pair of glasses as I think my eyes are ruined from all the reading.
Great work bro.
One thing I still umm and ahh about it whether or not to have separate landing pages for my various products/offers/free giveaways.
I notice Yaro has different domain names for all the things that he does. Thoughts?
Tyrant
Great post..! And as usual I will return to re-read as I usually do, this is because you provide so much great information. Bravo..! I look forward to the new software you’re about to release.
Thanks Steve,
Appreciate the support!
Hi Glen!
As always very rich and great post!
I have many ideas on new and useful apps, and every time something pop-up in my mind (like today on the morning), is just to find out later that it already exists and someone else making big money.
Another think – I am always worry, due to lack of SOLID coding skills for specific platforms, that I have to share my genius idea with programmer, or someone else who has MORE power than me (social/financial etc) and risk that someone else will use it, not me. And I don’t have clue how I could show my ideas to the world without worrying that someone steal my concept. That’s why so far, all ideas I am keeping for myself, with no action.
How about you guys?
Hey Evo,
Not really sure how to deal with this to be honest. In my specific situations I think it’s been clear that you need to have an ‘audience’ already for these things to work, or at least know how to market the end result. Which, a lot of developers don’t know how to do.
Obviously that still leaves you with a risk though. You could get them to sign an NDA form, which gives you at least some amount of rotection.
*protection
People ask me how to do this stuff. I say, “It’s simple, go read everything Glenn has written.”
Hah, thank you Paul!
If you could use another beta tester I’d love to get involved Glen. I’ve got a background in the WP & WordCamp communities and have done beta testing and development checks on quite a few premium plugins and themes to date. I’ve also got a community that loves that kinda stuff as I write about WP a fair bit. Give me a shout by email if your interested.
Kim
Thanks Kim,
Already sent it out to quite a few people (and fixed a few bugs) so it looks like we’re all good on that front, but I appreciate the offer!
- G
Love you Glenn! This post is exactly what I am needing. Can’t want to see your premium plugin. I’m very excited!
Thanks Tung,
Always appreciate your comments!
After Seth Godin, you are the person whose posts I desperately wait for.. and you have hit the bull’s eye with this one.. I was so desperate to know and understand how does a non-programmer develops a plugin or an apps, and here it is.. the exact stuff which I wanted.. eagerly waiting for the new plugin.. and I am sure it will be a best seller!
PS: I never had the opportunity to use affiliateSkin .. is there any possibility I can use it now??
Hey Mohul,
I’m a huge fan of Seth so that means a lot to me. Thanks!
It’s possible, but I can’t support it so…
Great post Glen!
Its amazing how some people break the rules and go away with it.
Cheers,
Mategyero
Excellent, Glen.
By the end of your posts I begin to see blurry and I have to take a break. But it’s worth it
I’m really looking forward to seeing what your plugin does to improve our lives.
Cristina
Hey Cristina,
Feels like I haven’t seen you here in forever!
Dankie
Hey Glen,
great post. I have found to your site via Joanna Wiebe’s COPY HACKERS Book 3 – Headlines – where she uses your Viperbar banner as an example for good headline writing (she says – As intriguing and hard to believe as it is highly desirable – regarding the ease of installation of Viperbar).
I have afterwards simply visited your domain and was amazed by the sheer amount of content you share FOR FREE! Dude, that’s amazing. And I think that’s and you’re the reason I will go into blogging even more in the near future.
You mention Napoleon Hill here and there throughout this blog and I’m a big fan of his works. Interesting enough I joined a mastermind group as he recommends and we were discussing the topic of app development just in our last “come together”. It’s amazing to see that obviously this hits the trend!
I cannot get enough of your insights and your close to magic content so I am really curious what your plugin will be all about and I already said to myself – if I can afford it – I’ll buy it as I am pretty sure it’s useful and high quality.
Keep on rocking, dude, you are definitely an idol for me
Phil
Hey Phil,
Hah! That’s pretty cool…I didn’t know
Really appreciate the support and kind words. It keeps me doing what I do!
- G
Hey Glen,
Great article. I get lots of valuable insight into the way you see things from posts where you do this. I appreciate that view into your head.
I do have one comment I would like you to consider though and it is about the desire to work directly with the programmer. I think that works well if you are good at writing your design and technical spec but, to be honest, most people aren’t.
They end up frustrating their developer by having him or her deliver iterations for the sole purpose of designing by trial and error – very dissatisfying and ultimately more expensive to both you and your developer. (Every iteration costs somebody time and money. If you expect it from your developer you will not go to the top of his or her client list.)
Or they get a product lacking in features or quality because they don’t know how to translate their ideas into a technical spec.
Or worse, they get something that resembles what they wanted but lacks the documentation needed so that they can hand it off to another developer later down the road when the initial developer is gone and they want to scale or enhance their product.
So I guess what I am gently nudging you towards here is to resist the urge to always work directly with your programmer. If you work with a technical designer who can translate your ideas into technical language for your developer and create a visual spec for you that eliminates the unpleasant surprises you will be happier, your product will be better and your programmer will likely return your calls faster. Sometimes, it is this middle man who, if skilled at design, saves you the most money while taking your idea up a notch because they “get it” and can “speak it.”
Great software takes a small team to design, build and test. Own your product by expecting both the code and the design specification. Let your designer control the metadata, the spec and the code reviews needed to make sure you are a happy guy.
Cheers,
David
That’s certainly true David. The problem is that it’s probably as difficult for the typical blogger to find a project manager – like you describe – who you can trust and also isn’t overly expensive, as it is to find a good and inexpensive developer. My experience working with managers like this has been good, and it’s made it easier to do things like work out financial compensation, discuss technical details, create little work-around plans for complex functions, etc. However, I would be lying if I said that it wasn’t frustrating sometimes not to be able to speak directly to the person in charge. I’d agree with Glen in that, even if you do hire someone technical to do some mediation work, it’s still important to develop a relationship with the programmer directly. If you’re committed to your project, then the extra time spent doing this will be worth it. Like you said, it’s a teamwork process, and I think a big mistake entrepreneurs make sometimes is not being involved enough, and if you don’t know what’s been going on, it’s difficult to know who to hold responsible for the success or failure of the project.
I agree with you Graeme. It is important to stay involved. Good designers will bring you and the programmer together several times to make sure everyone is clear on the design. Entrepreneurs should expect at least one JAD (joint application design) session and often a second one to participate in the sizing and priority effort once the vision is clear.
I am curious about one thing you mention and that is the challenge to find the right talent at the right cost. Can you think of a solution that would help solve this? I think new entrepreneurs present a unique challenge in this area because their ideas can be fragile and their finances smaller than required for a stable development cycle.
Just a side note too – designers often are not project managers. Using the house analogy, I think of them as architects rather than general contractors.
Glen
congratulations my brother. I cant wait to get and purchase your new web app man. Im very happy for you.
Cheers Kenny!
Coming soon…
great post Glen, thanks for sharing so much info! if you ever need a details guy to review your projects just let me know – I’ve spent many years ui/ux testing and enjoy it
Noted, Craig.
Thanks!
Hey Glen,
Really cool update as always.
I’m intrigued on the plugin ‘buzz’ though…
>> “the community has needed this for a really long time.”
Already gave it some hard thinking and I can’t even imagine what it is so I’ll guess I’ll find out when you decide to release it.
For advice on app development I have to say that even if somebody has the time for learning how to code, it may not be that easy since everyone digests technology differently.
However I still see a rise amongst bloggers that are fairly technical with html and css and I believe that dabbling with php&mysql is really easy if you decide to roll up your sleeves (I highly recommend SitePoint’s books for this and/or Learnable -the website-)
It was fun to read that you’re almost done reading Walter Issacson’s book too, I bought a Spanish hardcopy while traveling over Europe and I have to say the same as you.
An impressive guy with amazing logic and yes, I also feel related to him.
Anyway, take care man and looking forward to that premium plugin!
Sergio
I heard an interview with DHH of 37signals about a month ago where he said they were looking to hit $100m by the end of 2012. In short, I think they’re making a lot more than $12m at this point.
Hey Justin,
Do you have a link? Couldn’t find anything on Google..
Amazing post. The sole reason I started reading this blog is because @jordanfried was raving about quality of information. WOM is so powerful. Have since share site with many friends. Lookin forward to release of your plugin.
Now this is definitely worth reading. There’s a lot to learn from this.
Great post Glen. Definitely gave me the much needed kick up the backside to get my web app “ideas” off the ground:)
Took me the best part of an hour to digest this one! Well worth it though, I always thought this type of thing would be impossible for me, you seem to make it much more accessible.
Cheers!
Thank you for sharing the process and steps you are using.
How you making $$ when your app is free? Is there adds ? Sorry If I cant see.
Wish you luck!
Hey Motyar,
Nope..I’m not making a penny
Buddy
As usual very well organized and informative post. I wonder how you manage to research these things and caring to write the long posts. I’m persoanlly thankful along with thousands of readers for your commitment and genorosity. Eagerly waiting for your big announcement and can’t wait long:)
Thanks Sajan!
this post is gold
awesome stuff as usual and good luck with the launch bro. I am really looking forward to get this stuff, cheers
I think this one of the longest post I’ve read this week.
Great epic content Glen.
I can’t wait to know more about this new product of yours. Best of luck!
Spatch Merlin
From More Web Site Traffic Guide
Great post Glen!
Nice kick in the a** for me to pick back up on the iPhone app I’ve been wanting to get developed since forever.
It’s something I’ve been wanting to use for myself so even if it ends up not making any money I’ll still be one happy man.
Great informative post Glen,
Just when I need a summary on creating apps for bigginers.
Can’t wait to see your new creation, wishing you the best with the sales, you have certainley worked hard on it.
Cheers
Toto
Hey Glen,
LOVE that I found your blog. Just amazing. Something that stood out to me when reading this entry: “If you’re split-testing your sales page, down the line you’ll likely have copy that converts at a fairly good percentage. At this stage, you can put money into things like PPC advertising”.
This seems to be referencing some kind of organic (read: unpaid) marketing pipeline that is initially executed BEFORE spending a penny on paid traffic? Could you elaborate on this a bit more?
Thanks for everything, Glen!
Glen,
Awesome plugin. Will you add a popup module to it? Ideally that when a visitor goes to leave the site? That will seal the deal for many people myself included
Hi Colin,
We’re definitely thinking about it. Want to make sure we perfect the other aspects of the tool first though
I saw the plugin earlier on and all I could say is that ITS AWESOME and BEST IN THE WORLD!
The plugin will make bloggers to RISE ABOVE HATE and that is THE TRUTH!
Nice concept man and I hope it makes you the millions you so desire.
Sheyi
Wow! This is quite the in depth article! I appreciate all the hard work you put in. I cannot believe how much money there is out there on this kind of stuff but things have changed greatly in the past decade. I will pass this article along to a few of my friends who can make MUCH better use of it. I did enjoy the read though.
Hi Glen,
This post was amazing, the first time I’ve visited this blog too
I wasn’t aware that WordPress Plugins could generate so much money..!
It’s so much easier to understand and learn new things about technical areas and product creation when someone lays it all out in front of you in an easy to read fashion. This post was just that!
I know product creation can be tough, and there are many areas to it, I’ve made eBooks and Video course, but never thought of WordPress Plugins, my mind is ticking over now
lol
Thanks
Jack
Excellent post! There is a lot of information mentioned above that is extremely viable to creating a great app.
Thanks for a great reading experience.
nice article glen.. once again you did it
Solid post, looking forward to the app!
I have a few decent web-app ideas that I was on the fence about, but after reading this it’s definitely looking like a future business project.
Cheers
Hi Glen,
I just purchased OptinSkin and LUV it. This post was great also because I developed a WordPress plugin for guest posting and the support part of it was a nightmare for me. I got a lot of good info here especially about the debugging part ( WPdebug). I don’t know if my programmers did that and I’m starting to think if I had requested that be done, I wouldn’t have had such a hard road. But hey – it was my first time. Like you said, I gained a lot of knowledge and will know better moving forward.
Best,
Lisa
Hi Glen,
I have a wordpress blog but I never really paid much attention to it. Your insights will definitely help me make money with my existing WP blog .
I don’t get something.
WordPress is licensed as GPL (the license it uses I mean).
It is my understanding that all theme PHP code, plugin code, and otherwise that uses their API calls must be licensed similarly.
If that is so…then what is to keep someone from simply buying a plugin and then selling it on their own? Cutting you out of the picture other than…well…to give you credit for being the original creator?
Carlos
Hey Carlos,
I’ve just looked into this. When WordPress were suing Thesis, Thesis adopted a split-GPL license, which many other WordPress theme companies have now adopted. The PHP code they use is under GPL, but any images, CSS and Javascript (which are essential to making our product work) can be protected by us.
So then it would still be illegal for anyone selling it as their own.
We’ll get onto making the PHP GPL compliant a.s.a.p. Thanks
More than the inspiring, hope i would be also be able to do something like this
Awesome post! : )
Great write-up!
There are so many things in it that I was never aware of — thanks a million.
I saw the plugin earlier on and all I could say is that ITS AWESOME and BEST IN THE WORLD!
Amazing post, I never even thought about the app world but now im super intrigued.
Wishing you the best of luck for your hard work! I am on the other side of your story. I am a developer who keeps getting involved with users who get distracted by bright shiny objects that have the potential to make faster and more money than the last one (greed kills…). I am currently working on my own pet project which I hope will be successful but unfortunately I only majored in computer science, not computer science AND statistics which are the two major areas I need deep knowledge in. It would be so easy for someone else to take my idea as it seems obvious. I have seen no success or fail stories so am struggling ahead (2 years now with 3 restarts) alone. Your post inspires, again good luck!
Hey read your article.
Im in the middle of developing my app and currently working with a development company. Anyways I hoping to see if you could answer some questions for me. Please send me an email whenever possible.
Hi
Valid steps for before developing any apps …
Thanks